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Post by airinvienna on Aug 22, 2010 19:04:13 GMT -6
"Who is allowed to carry/wield a light saber IRP?"
This question has a very clear-cut answer:
*Only Force Users.*
No need to request it for a Non-Force user. It most likely won't be approved in the slightest.
"Why?" One might ask...
Because here, at SWRP Naboo, the ability to even turn a saber on has always been reserved for those that are users of the Force, and most importantly, Saber use is, in fact, a listed Force Power.
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Post by ivory on Aug 23, 2010 2:21:34 GMT -6
Also, it has been in the books and stories (at least the hundred odd that ive read, yeah im a geek i know) always been stated that sabre collections of dead enemies belonged always to darkies or at least force sensible beings.
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Post by To lazy to sign in on Aug 23, 2010 5:38:02 GMT -6
Boba Fett carried a lightsaber, General Grevious had a collection of lightsabers, many other bounty hunters had lightsaber from previous collection of said bounty. Hmm..
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Post by ivory on Aug 23, 2010 15:31:53 GMT -6
grivous was force sensetive as he wasnt all droid
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Post by boto on Aug 23, 2010 15:35:12 GMT -6
In this RP, it has ALWAYS been said only Force Users can wield a saber effectively, should a NFU try, they would likely lop off their arm.
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Post by Joon Coake on Aug 23, 2010 15:58:23 GMT -6
So in saying that, a trained swordsman that was not a force user would lop his arm off just because its a lightsaber..more so then a padawn because he was a force user. Thats the way I interpret that boto I would like to think a lightsaber would be a excellent tool for a NFU, as a way to stand against a Jedi or Sith with a weapon that will not get lopped off like a cheap toy. I also understand that you do not want a bunch of happy go lucky NFU's running around with lightsabers. I would honestly like to ask a favor that does not have to be completed, that lightsaber used for a NFU could be given on a merit basis, considering If I stole a lightsaber I could equally use it instead of not being able to..even if it had to be activated by the force you could re engineer one hypothetically
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Post by airinvienna on Aug 23, 2010 16:44:23 GMT -6
No. Guess what, we aren't gonna argue this. Either rp by the rules, or don't rp.
If you are a swordsman: Use a SWORD. Or any pointy metal object. Sabers DO NOT fall into that category.
If an NFU tried to use a light saber against anyone, the hits that are aimed for/or defenses made will be void. Simple as that no exceptions.
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Post by Darian Sevrin on Aug 23, 2010 16:52:21 GMT -6
Actually... I don't like lightsabers all that much... they glow... they make noise. To an assassin this is exactly what you DONT want. Not to mention you use the force to activate them, so if you were TRYING to hide with the force, You probally just make it easier to detect you.
I actually perfer alchemical swords... they don't have the same cutting power... but look... no saber can cut them up... and what's more... you can use them and stealth.
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Post by boto on Aug 23, 2010 17:51:47 GMT -6
A trained NFU swordsman could NEVER use a lightsaber because simply, a lightsaber is NOT a sword. There is no weight to the blade, so a NFU cannot judge where the blade would go, a FU can because uh.. the force guides them. A swordman needs the weight of the blade to be affective, so they can judge the strength of their strike, the weight of their movement and the location of the blade.
Also... the only mando I ever saw use a lightsaber correctly was a bloody FU in KOTOR. I have never, in ALL SW's seen a NFU use a saber and use it right or well, mainly because the lack of blade weight throws them. But either way, it is beside the point. The RP rules state that only FU's can use a saber.
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Post by Try no on Aug 28, 2010 5:04:53 GMT -6
Only force users can use lightsabers.
The only exceptions that fly with any sense of credibility are:
-General Grievous who had a special heuristic implant (basically an implant that allowed his kalee brain to function with near jedi reflexes) and a mechanical body made to be physically faster and stronger than any human--and he still got his butt whipped by a single human jedi who only had one saber, no armor, no crushgaunts and no special abilities. True, Grievous did manage to bring down many other jedi, but during the Clone Wars, 95% of the order were trained to deal with opponents with blaster bolts, not lightsabers.
However, Anakin, Obi-Wan and Mace Windu all had previous experience in dealing with force users. Anakin fought Dooku, Obi-Wan killed Maul and Mace fought Kar Vastor. And all three jedi had zero problems with any encounter they had with Grievous who actually fled from these jedi until being killed by Obi-Wan. The only jedi Grievous was ever able to defeat were jedi who either were untrained in dealing with saber wielders and or never faced darksiders.
Jedi of this RP generally have experience in dealing with many darksiders and thus, are going to more than a match for any non force user when it comes to saber combat, especially when its a human who doesn't have an experimental droid body with heuristic implants.
The only other to come close to being a plausible non force using saber wielder was Boba Fett--the single most badass mother f'er and like it or not, you are not Fett, you aren't related to Fett (we don't allow canon characters or being related to canon characters, if you are claiming to be a Fett, you are breaking the rules, suck it up, you're are not a fett here). And if you seriously need a saber to handle a jedi, then you aren't as badass as Fett, not by a long shot.
And another thing, Boba Fett was spent part of his childhood under the watchful eye of Aurra Sing--after his father was killed, Aurra Sing became Boba's guardian. Was your character raised by a deadly force user? If they are mandalorian then they weren't. The only reason Aurra raised Boba Fett was the mandalorian of his era were scattered, they are not in this RP. Even if you were orphaned, chances are the nearest mando family would have found you and taken you in, ensuring you were not carried off by jedi.
Now Boba Fett, the hardest mutha in the galaxy who spent some of his youth being raised by a darksider did wield a lightsaber: ONCE. Yes, the one solitary human who might have been able to get a grasp of how to use a lightsaber and not utterly fail used it ONCE and only against Darth Vader, since none of his other weapons would actually count as weapons against Vader. And he still lost.
So thats that. The only two non force users in canon to use lightsabers failed when dealing with force users, and they were better than you. Your character doesn't have a droid body with super implants, its not a fett, it wasn't raised by Aurra Sing and its not going to outdo them.
So no, non-force users can't use lightsabers. Jedi have to train for years to be able to use them properly. Does this mean nfu's can't ever go melee with a jedi or sith? Not at all, you could always request a sword or something made of mandalorian iron or a sith made sword.
Done.
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